Revs not dropping when you pull in the clutch when warmed

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  1. Havit

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    penelope my Thunderbird 900 has just started holding the revs when you pull the clutch in when changing gear. This only happens when the engine is warm . When you start her and take off , all is well then as the Engine warms the revs are slow to drop. Its a bit hit and miss when your riding its not every time but only when she is warm. Any idea's??
     
  2. crispey

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    Sorry Wayne, I was waiting for the punch line!!:p I'd check and lube cable for free play, lube both cable and anything at the ends that move, especially where anything come close to engine or other heat source. Does it happen when trying to rev when stationary or only on gear changes?
     
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  3. Havit

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    No Chrispy, when stationary she revs and drops normally. Its Only when riding with the engine warm that the revs seem to hang . And it does make a change not to have a punch line :D does this mean theres a serious side to me.......nah :D
     
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  4. steve lovatt

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    We always expect a punch line from you Wayne :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Havit

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    I do my best Steve;)
     
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  6. Tigcraft

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    Some expansion in any intake rubbers that are nearly hanging off if you get my drift?
     
  7. thebiglad

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    Air leaks on the inlet rubbers or a gripping throttle cable when the bike is hot?
     
  8. Tigcraft

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    Ah that's what I meant to say
     
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  9. Havit

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    Will Check them out, Thanks lads
     
  10. camman

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    Is Penelope a carb or EFI model?....if EFI, could possibly be "over fueling" when hot ?....I am by no means an expert, but I did have the similar thing happen on Landy, and it turned out to be the ECU had got "confused" and had to be re mapped.o_O
    But as said, and hopefully, it is just air leak or sticky cable.
     
  11. Havit

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    Pens a carb Camman but thanks for your input . I'm wondering if one of the slides in one her carbs are sticking maybe. I will look into the air intake first then take it from their. I took her for a spin today but it's just too fustaiting . Typical when the sun is out and the sound of bikes are in the air :(
     
  12. stevethegoolie

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    Probably not much help but I'm thinking choke and/or throttle cable free play is not enough. Cables need oiling or are possibly starting to fray a bit. Tickover speed set a bit too high - should be around 1,000 rpm(+/- 50). Muck in carb(s) causing sticking etc (try Redex or similar in petrol to clean 'em out - works for me!).
     
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  13. Havit

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    Good idea Will get some and try it . Save me stripping the carbs thanks Steve
     
  14. steve lovatt

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    Good advice from stevethegoolie - used Redex on the Bonnie and Trident. Check the choke cable as I had the revs rise on the Trident and it turned out to be a broken choke cable, which caused it to stay on. (thread on here somewhere with pics).
     
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  15. sprintdave

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    if it is the choke sticking a bit you should be able to push it in manually, you can on a sprint anyway. it is a small lever on the left of the bike in front of the carbs, you will see the movement if you operate the choke while looking just under the tank. i would think poss an air leak tho
     
  16. Havit

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    Hi Dave. No its not the choke. That's working fine . I have the top of the carbs off at the moment to see if one of the slides are sticking. I can't see any loose clips or leaks in the rubbers . I'm hoping that when I put it back together it's gone. Only time will tell. Thanks for your input anyway ;)
     
  17. steve lovatt

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    Are the diaphragm rubbers in good condition Wayne? The ones on my Bonnie had gone soft and had lost their elasticity so replacing them made a big difference. (even though that won't be the cause of this particular problem).
     
  18. PETER CLARKE

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    #18 PETER CLARKE, May 28, 2016
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    Hi Wayne or can we call you Parker from now on you joker, you have had some good advice here but if I were having a fast idling problem from cold I would be heading for my spray oil can and would spray around me carburettors and if the engine idle alters there must be a air leak a simple test not much work involved:)
     
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  19. Havit

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    Thanks peter, will try that, have a bigger problem at the moment, went in the garage to find a puddle of petrol under the bike. Its dripping from the airbox , i know its either a float sticking or the petcock. The Petcock was switched off but i know it does leak slightly. So im getting a new one to start with € 111 Euro on order should have it by wednesday. Told you ma lady is high maintenance :oops::oops: . Fingers crossed thats all it is , taking the carbs off is not easy on her, the rubbers are a bugger to get back on. I think petrol has got in the sump as well so its possible the seals are not good on the float. More work:mad::mad:
     
  20. steve lovatt

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    Those rubbers are an absolute bugger - done it twice on the Trident.
     
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