Where are you getting this 80% from ? Is it your guess ? Are there published and verified figures to support this ?
A great repository of assembled hard data from multiple reputable sources. https://twitter.com/fatemperor?s=21 You may find it challenging.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA This guy gives more facts in five minutes than the entire media in 12 months. Can anyone challenge these?
Try this one James. A real qualified ICU doctor debunking the pseudoscience quackery of the unqualified Ivor Cummins.
Mr one sided argument strikes again. Publishing half the information as usual. The documents revealed that two people who received the experimental vaccine had died during the trial. Four others who died were on a placebo. “All deaths represent events that occur in the general population of the age groups where they occurred, at a similar rate,” the report said.
Not that you’ll bother watching but pretty comprehensively dismantles the Pimenta arguments supported by authorities far more eminent than a junior cardiologist. Besides, Dr Pimenta is busy selling a book and seems more interested in a career in public advocacy of some kind than a return to full time clinical work. Cummins is more in the nature of a technical librarian and data analyst for multiple specialists......so he’s really about ‘what the evidence supports’. His collaborators are a kind of kitemark. Pimenta doesn’t really have any. All down to informed choice about what you want to believe. Edit: Forgot to mention the derivation of the 80% immunity is explained and substantiated in there
Challenging ? Not at all. Can't be arsed to be honest. It seems to be fairly easy to pick some so called expert off the internet who supports your own view. I will stick with my own life experiences and limited medical knowledge. I remember a yearly death figure being quoted by a doctor due to anti-biotics and i'm sure that figure would shock a lot of people, it surprised me at the time. Some people refuse to take the seasonal flu vac but i've been taking it for twenty years without any problems. Lifes experiences and a bit of knowledge mixed with a bit of common sense beats listening to "experts" on the internet.
For those who appreciate a more forensic dissection of how the vaccine was specified and tested: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=169f1c9f-732e-43a4-a90d-947de93de545
Thanks Cal, that’s an interesting read. It is scathing about the unknowns regarding mRNA vaccine technology given its newness, which I can understand.
My sole issue is the haste. The epidemic has moved on. The politicians and pharma not so much. Fig leaves and money.
Seems like it's fairly limited and expected. "Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenalin pens around with them." "Reactions like this are uncommon, but do happen with other vaccines, including the annual flu jab."
Professor Stephen Powis, medical director for the NHS in England, said both individuals are recovering well. "As is common with new vaccines, the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely," he said. Sounds reasonable enough, and SOP from what I can see. No need to sensationalise it.
