Corona Virus

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  1. garethr

    garethr Well-Known Member

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  2. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Hi Garethr,
    No, no source link from yeadon, not at all, I guess he did the plot chart himself
    from ONS data (well.. )
    Found that the day I posted it in a few seconds from Yeadon's tweeter's page.
    I just looked for you, and cannot see it anymore. more than probably deleted.
    Anyway you still can compare with the ONS real chart some posted.
    Being a bit alone to face the conspi flooding, I'll let it as is, and will stay on bike, other pleasant topics that don't imply politics and funny reading about.
    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  3. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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  4. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Actually Mike Yeadon DOES explain

    “Look, I can’t be more direct. We can’t have a lethal pandemic sweeping the land, killing thousands of people & it NOT show up in the total mortality charts. Not unless someone is hiding dead bodies. And they’re not. Its MISDIAGNOSES. Please wake up. It’s not even new.”

    So, no excess deaths = diagnostic errors that label everything Covid while other conditions shrink. What he has said throughout is that the whole problem stems from the PCR tests which, until recently, have been the sole measure of Covid.

    Because PCR is so indiscriminate (in the strict meaning of the word) it cannot distinguish between recovered, recovering and active cases nor lab contamination or where someone’s immune system has killed virus still present but dead in their nose/throat.

    Look at Liverpool test results that take a city from ‘rampant’ to ‘negligible’ in a weekend.....

    That in turn tells you all of the ‘cases’ aren’t which is wholly consistent with Austria? where 97% of cases were demonstrably not infectious. It is fizzling out for now....... but it has moved from clinical to political and financial.
     
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  5. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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  6. garethr

    garethr Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about France, but in the UK, hospital admissions are not necessarily being treated for serious COVID-19 symptoms. They are just people who tested positive for COVID-19, or are, in the case of Wales, suspected of being infected.

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/det...tive-numbers-of-patients-admitted-to-hospital

    ENGLAND
    England data include people admitted to hospital who tested positive for COVID-19 in the 14 days prior to admission, and those who tested positive in hospital after admission. Inpatients diagnosed with COVID-19 after admission are reported as being admitted on the day prior to their diagnosis. Admissions to all NHS acute hospitals and mental health and learning disability trusts, as well as independent service providers commissioned by the NHS are included.
    NORTHERN IRELAND
    Northern Ireland data include confirmed COVID-19 admissions by admission date.
    SCOTLAND
    Data for Scotland include admissions into hospital for patients who tested positive for COVID-19 in the 14 days prior to admission to hospital, on the day of their admission, or during their stay in hospital. The data are published weekly by Public Health Scotland.
    WALES
    Wales data include confirmed and suspected cases, and are the numbers of admissions to the hospital in the previous 24 hour period up to 9am. The numbers of admissions are not comparable with other nations
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    It surely cannot be that difficult to identify the patients who are actually ill, can it?
     
  7. Rooster

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  8. Erling

    Erling Elite Member

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    I'm very sorry to hear that, Jez. As the months pass by, it's getting closer to many of us now. Two of my aunts are thankfully recovering well. An uncle, well, not so much. They are now admitting his nearest family, one at a time and dressed in space suits. Not a good omen.
     
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  9. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    Agreed sorry to hear about your mate. Like you say the virus should be taken seriously. The wife’s dad also died of COVID and that was also real.
     
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  10. Erling

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    Not that there aren't any entertaining moments as well. Tonight Norway is meeting Austria in a football match in Vienna. Only, our national team did not get any dispensations from the quarantine regulations. This means that we have scraped together a sort of contingency team of footballers that were in Europe anyway, supposedly B, C and D players. Apparently, they have asked most Norwegian male near Austria, if they are under 45 and not suffering of COPD they're on the team. It should be a fun night for them – top-of-the-shelf Bundesliga boys are waiting in Vienna. A great opportunity for autographs, at least.
     
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  11. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    We need more of this! :cool:
    This is how football should be played.
    Have you got two legs?
    Can you see?
    You're in the team! :joy::joy:
     
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  12. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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    That's how it's done at Oldham, well nearly, they don't ask you if you can see.
     
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  13. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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    Good idea ! Just remember to throw away the key to the drawbridge so you can't get out again.:p:)
     
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  14. Callumity

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    It’s generally reckoned aerosol infections can travel up to 30m before falling to earth. That’s some moat......
     
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  15. Rocker

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    He'll just pump the water out of the moat with his ditch pump :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Callumity

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    Pickled eggs and cabbage?
     
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  17. stinger

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...markets-common-exposure-setting-Covid-19.html

    Is this the stupidest article or research ever published anywhere?

    Meanwhile
    Stinger on the Triumph forums has been examining the NHS Track and Trace statistics and has found a potentially game changing breakthrough in discovering how COVID-19 is transmitted. It is clear that 99.5% of people have urinated at least once in the 24 hours before a positive COVID test. It appears that the virus may well be passed on through unhygienic WC's. This is further confirmed by the fact that people who have passed a stool in the week before a positive test are at 99.65% of the tests.
    In other words, if you are full of shit you are unlikely to contract COVID-19.
     
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  18. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    Interesting Stinger, so most of this forum should be pretty safe then ? :p:cool:
     
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  19. Callumity

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    #2299 Callumity, Nov 20, 2020
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    Well ‘most’ would have been a slight exaggeration. You see, Public Health England now accept that between 20% and 50% of the population had prior immunity through their T cells and prior contact with closely related Coronavirus’. Fact, Hubaxe, fact!

    Some immunologists have calculated it is probably as high as a third. If you add that initial third to everyone who has since had it you are getting well into herd immunity territory i.e. no longer enough fresh victims to keep the epidemic going. Fuel starvation as most of us would understand it.

    All of which now makes a vaccine superfluous..... this is borne out by accurate Lateral Flow Tests in Liverpool which found next to no active cases........we got spoofed by mass testing using the PCR method in labs full of cross contamination..... as the Health & Safety Exec quietly issued improvement notices.

    The Government know all this........so, yes, most of are now ‘safe’ but HMG doesn’t seem to want you to feel it....
     
  20. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Please forget me... What is your problem? Think what you think and let people alone; You are duplicating your stuff on all threads you can.
    It's just pointless
    Meanwhile +429 covid death in last 24h in France...certainly similar in UK.
     
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