FFS they are at it again! Rishi Sunak considers plan to CHARGE motorists for every mile they drive https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...arge-motorists-mile-drive-Britains-roads.html Price us off the roads, total surveillance with devices to track where you have driven, reduce private vehicle ownership.
I've always been very wary of the practice of vehicle tracking by the insurance industry. It seems insidious to me. It's now become commonplace for younger drivers and has somehow numbed any outraged response when it's offered with a carrot of a cheaper premium more widely. On a side note I'm curious that the Dacre Daily is off the Sunak PR guidelines. Wonder what horse they *are* backing.
All these ‘incentives’ including so-called green energy are taxpayer funded. Windmills and electric vehicles would barely exist without massively tilting the table.
There is another possibility. Once the ban on ICE takes effect I believe there will be a much greater demand for the used rumbly, motorcycles. With an increase in value.
Look, your government doesn't want you to have personal transport. They couldn't care less about the "classic" market or enthusiasts. The New World Order hates cars, bikes or other means of wasteful freedom. A Google car that you don't own can ferry you to the store and back, that's good enough. Take the bus. Personal property is an artifact of the consumer past. You want to save the earth, right? That means consuming less and living less. Welcome to the Great Reset. At least I won't have to buy new spark plugs....
And of course it can be denied to you if you do not conform with anything and everything... just look at Chinas social credit system
The sad thing is, IMO that many people think banning ICE's will make a difference to climate change and I don't for a second believe it will. It may well improve air quality locally in congested towns and cities but I can't see it doing much to improve the global climate picture, there are far larger forces at work.
Maybe they should also stop encouraging people to eat more greens, they play havoc with my emissions.
Yes spot on....and that’s the trouble with ‘buying into’ the whole UK electric thing... the problem is global and all the pollution from dirty countries eventually gets wafted over to us.. ... but just on the motor bike front have they been specifically targeted too for 2030 or just classed as vehicles with everything else?
I'm not sure but we can hope. I can't see it including commercial vehicles either, the technology won't be there IMO.
dont see it happening the fuel companies would loos to much money the tax on fuel here is over30cents a leter the loss of jobs I think it just sounds good for saving the planet ,just like plastic bags cost nothing but sounds good
Yeah, the government have got their eye on the potential loss of fuel tax revenue here, hence their proposal of a driving pay-per-mile scheme.
BSA/MAHINDRA [taken from SUMP magazine] UK built electric Beezers on the way? Story snapshot: A new range of £5,000 - £10,000 bikes has been mooted for 2021 Production is planned for a site "near Small Heath" We placed a question mark at the end of the headline for this news story because it's yet another speculative tale promising the advent of new 21st century BSA motorcycles. The latest press teaser has just appeared in The Guardian newspaper which has been chin-wagging with Anand Mahindra, head honcho of the huge Indian Mahindra group. Supposedly, the first of the new bikes will be built from a range of "bought-in" parts and assembled in a factory "near Small Heath", West Midlands. Exactly how near is anyone's guess at present. But it stands to reason that any company investing millions of pounds into the resurrection of a defunct heritage motorcycle brand would in all probability want to recommence manufacture as close as possible to the brand's most recent spiritual home. Ask John Bloor who re-established Triumph production at Hinckley, Leicestershire just 26 miles from Meriden Works in the West Mids. Meanwhile we note that the decision to manufacture in the UK might be at least vaguely connected to the fact that a £4.6million UK government grant has apparently been made in the hope that a few hundred British jobs might be created. So okay, £4.6million isn't actually very much in industrial terms, and it's mere pocket fluff for Anand Mahindra who's reputedly worth over £1billlion. But no doubt there will be other significant concessions from the relevant local authority that will make any deal even sweeter. On the other hand, the money has been granted to bolster development in electric motorcycle technology, and who's to say where that development will take place, and whether any of it will really support British jobs? Not us. Meanwhile, as we understand it, the Beezers will indeed be manufactured here in Blighty. That's the plan. But in a world of hardnosed accountancy and commercial pragmatism, we're a long way from convinced that the new BSA brand can pull this off—not unless it moves into higher end bikes, which apparently isn't the plan. The current promise is for motorcycles costing between £5,000 and £10,000, which puts the brand in direct competition with Triumph—and we recall Triumph waxing lyrically about British bikes being built in Britain. As opposed to Thailand. Mahindra already owns Jawa which was re-launched in 2018. And depending on whose numbers you believe (if any), Mahindra has ramped Jawa production up from 30,000 units annually to over 50,000. No doubt, after some delay in moving the BSA project onward, the company has also been buoyed by the huge success of Royal Enfield which continues to grow and consolidate its position in both domestic and foreign markets. Our view on all this? Switch off your engine for now and save gas. It might all happen, but the market is pretty crowded and its not clear if the numbers are likely to stack up in a Covid-19 world where some huge financial challenges are coming at us. See also: Sump Classic Bike News October 2016 https://sumpmagazine.com/classicbikenews/index.htm
A millage tax should have been introduced years ago. The gov will lose around 50 billion a year if we don't with these electrickery things coming along.
We already pay what was road tax on our vehicles the old argument was to put a bit extra on fuel those that use it pay for it and those with the gas guzzlers paid for it, but I don't like the idea of just paying a tax just to fill the governments coffers stop sending money to all these country's that don't need it in the first place
The gov have to find a way to make up for the future loss that will be incurred when ICE vehicles are fazed out and a millage suggestion is i think the right way. As it stands a lecky vehicle pays bugger all in tax at the moment. How do you suggest the gov make up the future potential loss of 50 billion a year ?
