Featured New Trident Revealed

Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by Hobnail, Oct 30, 2020.

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  1. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    Further to my previous post I would have thought that by the time some of the expensive optional extras are added the bike will probably end up costing £9-10k which is what dealers will be pushing to get that extra commission and new riders will fall hook line and sinker.
     
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  2. stevethegoolie

    stevethegoolie Elite Member

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    Much appreciated Streetgirl675!:) Thought I might be the odd one out with this one.:cold_sweat: Phew!!!:relieved:
    As old age creeps up I thought the new Trident might be a good, lighter alternative to my current Trident 900 but sadly not. Too much technology and ugliness for me I'm afraid.:( A nice simple Royal Enfield twin is probably more my cup of Darjeeling!
     
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  3. Notso

    Notso Senior Member

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    The Trident has almost the same dimensions as the Street Triple, but the handlebars are 30mm wider.

    This is a great spec bike for the money, it all hangs on how it rides and the reliability.
     
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  4. Oldskool

    Oldskool Elite Member

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    I agree with a lots of posters here. The Trident name should have been reserved for something really special. On looking through the web I came across a design done way back that would have more suited the name. This was featured in Cycleworld in America way back in 2007 but to my mind is the bike I would love Triumph to make and would have suited the Trident name better. The paint choice on this proposed design also has some heritage and looks great.

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  5. stevethegoolie

    stevethegoolie Elite Member

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    Now THAT I like.:) Interestingly they use a version of the 'ray gun' silencers which were very much 'like 'em or loathe 'em' way back wheno_O. A naked version along those lines should be most pleasing to an old fart like me though, who can remember them when they were first introduced.:eek: SIGH!!:( Eee .... when I were a lad etc.:rolleyes:
     
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  6. MadMrB

    MadMrB Elite Member

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  7. Gyp

    Gyp Well-Known Member

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    I'm having a similar conversation in another place about the range of the Harley Livewire, with several people stating that a 200 mile range between charges is nowhere near enough, and electric bikes will never sell unless that gets resolved.

    However for the vast majority of bikers, a 200 mile range is more than adequate for the vast majority of their rides, and adding a lot more cost and weight to meet the needs of the tiny minority that do occasional long distance touring wouldn't make financial sense.
     
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  8. MadMrB

    MadMrB Elite Member

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    Take in to account that range for electric vehicles is effectively half that quoted, as most travelling is a return trip, unless you have the time to wait and can find a location to recharge for the journey home.
     
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  9. Kenbro

    Kenbro Noble Member

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    #49 Kenbro, Oct 31, 2020
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    Yeh, a full 30 kilos (65lbs) lighter than my Ditch Pump.
    Will have to take a look when they’re in store.
    Thanks,Ken.
    PS. Why get your panties in a twist over the model’s name? ....you can call it a T.W.A.T. if you want to.
     
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  10. Kenbro

    Kenbro Noble Member

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    Could be handy in emergency sits. to know who’s calling and then pullover.
    Ken.
     
  11. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    I like the look of that and possibly worthy of the Trident name.

    I also remember the original Trident and the similar BSA Rocket3 which had inclined cylinders and a duplex frame whereas the Trident had vertical cylinders and a single down tube frame.

    Also remember marshalling at Oulton Park on Easter Monday 1971 for the final round of the Anglo-American Match Races(the previous rounds were at Brands Hatch on the Good Friday and Mallory Park on the Sunday) all the riders rode Tridents or Rocket3s.

    Happy Days :)
     
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  12. XCaTel

    XCaTel Senior Member

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    I think it is a lovely, simple clean looking bike, the white gets my vote. It will be interesting to see the real road test reviews, by owners, not the mags or vloggers. I think it will be the everyday usability that will be its foremost feature. I reckon they will sell bucket loads of them.
     
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  13. Lou160487

    Lou160487 Senior Member

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    Exactly. Some of us may, understandably, think it's a step in the wrong direction but if it widens their share of the market it's good for Triumph and that's good for their fans. There are many worse examples of manufacturers stretching the brand name simply in the hopes of profit. The new MUSTANG electric SUV comes to mind. This is just an opinion. The author acknowledges that your opinion may vary.
     
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  14. andyb57

    andyb57 Senior Member

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    As others have mentioned this is very close to the spec of the Street Triple S which has just been modified/upgraded. It has more power in unrestricted form too so I'm not sure where the Trident fits in??
     
  15. XCaTel

    XCaTel Senior Member

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    Power isn't everything and is always a trade off with revs and torque. It looks like they have purposely traded power for that long mid range torque. 110HP at 10-12K RPM is useless to anyone unless you want to ride at 10-12K RPM everywhere. It will be a less highly strung bike than the Street Triple and with a style all of its own and without the marmite style front lights. I have a Daytona 1200 with 147BHP. All that power is at the top end of the rev range, totally wasted on a public road, its just a headline figure and is totally unusable on the road. The Street Triple and Trident will be like chalk and cheese and which one you prefer will be down to your riding style but as long as you test ride both you will know what you prefer.
     
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  16. ChasChas

    ChasChas Marxist Scum

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    That's what I meant above about the XSR/MT 'business model'
    By the time I'd tweaked a base XSR (you can virtually configure) I was over 10k on a 7.5k bike
     
  17. johne

    johne Standing on the shoulders of dwarves.

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    It seems like the new Trident is splitting opinions on here before its even hit the streets! For my part I like the looks and I'll be blagging a test ride when they hit the showrooms next year, as a potential replacement for my 900 Thruxton, but I can't help thinking my sons MT-09 might be a better all round package.
     
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  18. andyb57

    andyb57 Senior Member

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    The new 660 Street Triple S has a fatter midrange apparently, but as you say a test ride will show up the differences between it and the new Trident.
     
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  19. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    I think @dilligaf might be pissed if you do, his bike is a “TWAT” already
     
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  20. English Bowman

    English Bowman Well-Known Member

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    I like it, not enough to want to buy it, but I think that they could be onto a winner. They need to sell bikes to more than just the retro market, and widen their range, and this could do it. They already have more than enough retros and cruisers, with most of the range being variants of the Bonnie. A couple of adventure bikes and a couple of street fighters.
    This is a little close to the Street Triple, but it does broaden the range.
    I'd like to see them bring back the Trophy, Sprints and Daytonas though as I think that they should be offering something for everyone, and there isn't a bike in the current range that I'd want to buy.
    As for devaluing the name, does it really?
    Was the original Trident devalued by the '90s bike?
    Was the Trophy off roader name ruined by putting it on a tourer, or the Tiger name ruined by putting it on an off roader?
    Was the Rocket name ruined by not bringing back the BSA name to go with it?
    Not many people remember any '60s bike name apart from the Bonnie, and that name has been used on a pastiche of the original. (Maybe the Norton Comando is also remembered, but not many more)
     
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