Worn Out Brake Pads

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  1. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    If you run out of brake pads and the metal touches the brake rotors are you required to resurface them like a car? the surface looks fairly smooth but I can some see some slight ridges. I was riding yesterday and my rear brake pads wore wore out. I probably drove about a mile or two not really touching them.
     
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  2. RSReggie

    RSReggie Active Member

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    I wouldn't worry about it . Just stick some new pads in. Personally I use soft pads in the rear as it's more gentle use for me . Should bed in ok :)
     
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  3. joe mc donald

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    Wow never seen anyone wear pads down to metal surely you brake was fading for ages. But no unless badly scored just run a sandpaper over the disc to remove any glazing.
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  4. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    Thank you fellas!
     
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  5. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to try and change my brake pads, I've never done it will see how it goes.
     
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  6. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I need help! I noticed that one of the two cylinders is not moving in and out when I step on the foot brake. Also one of them came out a bit too much. It actually came out and also some fluid behind it. It looks to me like I have a little bit of brake pad left, but I thought I needed brakes given I pressed on the foot pedal there was no stopping power. Take a look at some of these pictures. What do I do next my fellow trumpians.

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  7. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I ended up taking the caliper apart and cleaning it as best I could. I polish the pins with sandpaper. This is the lubricant they gave me for the threads on the pins and the caliber parts that needed grease. Let me know if you guys think it's okay,and am I missing anything?

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  8. joe mc donald

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    Yes what you need to do now is there is a rubber o'ring inside the piston orifice rub that with fluid and a smear on the back of the piston just keep it even and pop it back in. It is quite hard to start and helps if you release the bleed nipple. It will pop back in then drive both back evenly. Job done careful not to damage the o'ring but I have never damaged in all the years I have been cleaning brakes and do replace those pads.
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  9. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I have the brake pads installed. I ended ended up using this to lube the caliper parts. My rear brake fluid reservoir was low which I filled up. I tried to bleed the lines, but when I press the brake pedal it goes all the way down and I get no resistance. What am I missing what's going on?

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  10. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    This is what the brake pads look like installed. when I have it on neutral I can spin the tires but hear and feel a little bit of friction. The brake pads are making contact with the rotors. Is that how it supposed to be or should it be free of contact like a bicycle? If so how do I stop them from making contact?

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  11. Yorkshireman

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    Good job on getting everything cleaned up before reassembly you now need to properly bleed all the air out of the system to get a firm pedal. I don’t know what method you are using but try this. Fill the reservoir with clean, fresh brake fluid. Push down on the pedal then open the bleed nipple slightly. With the pedal still down close the bleed nipple and SLOWLY allow the pedal to return to rest. Repeat as many times as is necessary to get a firm pedal but keep an eye on the fluid level as you don’t want it to run out or you’ll have wasted a lot of time and effort. Sometimes if it is possible it is beneficial to raise the calliper above the level of the reservoir as it is easier to make the air rise in the lines than try to force it downhill, if that makes sense. If you have to resort to this method you will need to use a block of wood in place of the disc, and it helps to have an assistant.
    Don’t worry about the pads making slight contact with the disc as you rotate the wheel, that’s quite normal, what you need to avoid is if there is contact enough to cause the brake to bind as this is a a dangerous situation that can lead to the wheel locking up as things get hot and expand, jamming the brake on, but you got things all cleaned up and lubricated so it should be fine.
     
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  12. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all your feedback. I went back and bled the rear brakes again using your method. I was able to get pressure on the foot pedal. I've come to the conclusion that I lost pedal power due to lack of rear brake fluid. I love this for him.
     
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  13. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I meant to say I love this forum. Voice recognition didn't translate properly.
     
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  14. Wishbone

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    Good news and when it comes time to change the front brake fluid you now have a method to use, brake fluid should be renewed every 2-3 years.
     
  15. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    It happened again and I'm not sure what's going on. My foot brake pedal lost all tension. I will be able to step on it all the way down and the brakes would not apply. like last time I was carrying a passenger in the rear. Is it possible that I am riding the rear brake too much and that may cause it to stop performing? A bit later I check my foot pedal and it does have tension now.
     
  16. Wishbone

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    Yes you could be, do you use it a lot? I tend to use front all of the time and rear brake for balance to counter nose dive.
    Also it may be worth bleeding once more just to remove any remaining air?
     
  17. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    I bled them again so far so good, thank you. I am experiencing a loud noise when braking at the lower speed. What can I do to reduce the braking noise? I ended up with ebc fa214/2hh double-h sintered rear brake pads.
     
  18. Callumity

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    It depends what is causing the noise..... is it a squeal or a grinding sound? A squeal is high frequency vibration that brake grease between piston and back of pad (and opposing calliper fingers) should minimise.

    A rough, grinding sound needs investigating as something is not right. Strip, check, clean and carefully reassemble. Just make sure your pads are sitting straight on the backing springs and are not jammed at an angle.
     
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  19. Wishbone

    Wishbone First Class Member

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    I have just changed pads on my CBF600 and have got a grinding noise, it feels/sounds as if it is the pads just bedding in as its a different make.
    I put some copper grease on the back of pads just in case it is chatter!!
     
  20. Guillermo salinas

    Guillermo salinas Well-Known Member

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    My brakes sound likea train trying to stop.. I'll try that copper grease and if that doesn't work I'll take them apart again to insoect.
     
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