955i Engine Swap Issues

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  1. Andrewoio

    Andrewoio New Member

    Oct 31, 2018
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    I own a 2002 triumph speed triple 955i, but I bought it with a seized engine (knowingly). So I decided to try and make it a project by swapping a 2004 Daytona 955i engine into it. Everything seemed to fit just fine and the engine harness was pretty much plug and chug. Nothing seemed different.

    I finally got it all sorted and went to start it, but nothing. Switching the key to “on” everything seems normal, but the engine just won’t start. No crank or anything or anything either

    Is this an issue with the ECU/tuning? And if so how do I go about resolving it?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  2. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    Favourite is the clutch switch, caught me out on my Daytona after I’d put it back together. ;)
    If it’s not that, are you getting fuel pump priming, neutral light on and no EML?
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Got a multimeter?

    Switch on and check for battery power from a coil +ve terminal to earth. That will tell you your ECU is live and the ignition circuit is probably healthy I.e, sparks.
    Now check your starter circuit. There are three safety lock outs; neutral switch, clutch switch and sidestand. They all immobilise power to the starter motor. Then the starter button connections to the starter solenoid that should audibly click when energised.
    Verify that lot first! Elimination tracks down the culprit....
     
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  4. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    Does the ECU care that it's a different engine? I'm not sure but I know some bikes do and some don't.
     
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  5. D'Ecosse

    D'Ecosse Senior Member

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    No, it has no way to know (or care)

    The most likely reason for non-crank is the clutch switch, as previously suggested
    You can use one big clue:
    If you press and hold the start button (WITHOUT operating the clutch) you should see the headlights go completely off - and come back on when you release the lever. If you confirm that, it proves you have complete circuit through the START switch itself.
    The same signal that controls the headlight-cut relay also directly feeds the positive coil of the starter solenoid; but the solenoid ALSO requires the clutch switch to be closed in order to complete the negative side of the circuit.

    So - if your headlight DOES respond to the start button, you probably have a clutch interlock issue.

    You did say everything else looks 'normal' and presume you have Neutral and Oil lights on the instrument panel, which eliminates any issues with mixing up the bar switch connectors (yes, they CAN be interchanged!) or the Alarm bypass connector missing. But if you DON'T have those indicator lights, visit those connectors.
     
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