First Oil Change

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  1. Name

    Name Member

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    Going through break in on my 2018 t120 and per the informative article ive seen going around im preparing to drop the factory oil out. Moto man says at 20 miles(i couldn't stop so im at 80), but i was wondering what thoughts we have on warm or cold oil change. Typically i do with a warm engine as the oil is flowing better, but with it being the first change and draining out the potential metal shavings i wonder if it will be better to just drop it cold with everything settled at the bottom of the pan. I feel in my heart it will be basically the same, but I'm at work thinking about it and can't do it yet so i thought I'd see if anyone has any information
     
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  2. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    Are you saying that you’re doing an oil change at 80 miles from new? :eek: That seems unnecessary to me until 5 or 600 miles and the first scheduled service.
    Anyhoo, I’d normally do it warm but I suppose if you leave it draining for a good length of time it won’t make much difference.
     
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  3. Name

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    http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm so this is the article to which i was referring which has quite a bit of praise and made sense to me
     
  4. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    The rest of the article I agree with, I've never heard of changing the oil and filter on a new bike after just 20 miles,He could well be right, it certainly won't do any harm
     
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  5. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    I wonder if he’s got shares in an oil company :p
    Anyway, I thought that most engine manufacturers run in their engines on a test bed these days before they’re fitted into new bikes :confused:
     
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  6. Name

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    I mean it's entirely possible. It's my first time breaking in an engine and i thought what the hell. Why not spend 40 bucks to potentially get more out of my new bike. Im also doing conventional oil this time and will goi to synthetic after another thousand miles
     
  7. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    Personally I wouldn’t use a ‘conventional’ oil unless you mean an oil specified by Triumph, you could affect your warranty if not using a recommended type.
     
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  8. Name

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    Yes it is still the motorcycle specific Castrol. Specifically it's Castrol Go! 10w-40.
     
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  9. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    I haven’t heard of Castrol Go, is it new or just not a UK product?
     
  10. Name

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    US product. Likely same as something you have there under a different name although i couldn't tell you what
     
  11. Name

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    US product. Likely same as something you have there under a different name although i couldn't tell you what
     
  12. curly

    curly Noble Member

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    Do just as you want Name, it's your bike and you do want you want with it.
    You will get numerous opinions and thoughts by asking the question.
    An interesting question, but follow your own train of thought, at the end of the day you have to.
    Let us know what you decide to do and how you feel it went?
     
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  13. Notso

    Notso Senior Member

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    Personally I followed the service manual, my Street Twin said 500m. I wouldn't like to second guess what they do with the oil etc.

    I know some makes ask for 50m service, I think Honda do.

    The Triumph dealer mechanic said to me that the 500m change was not to remove swarf but more some sort of gunk. He mentioned the test bed and modern machining but that some components were now seated by a layer that forms and sets during the first few hundred miles but can put some gunk into the oil, not swarf. I don't pretend to fully understand or know about what the mechanic said, but my point being, what if the running in period needs something in the oil for the first 500miles that you remove with an early service.

    Things certainly seem to have changed since I decoked and renovated my first car's engine on a rusty old Mini.
     
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  14. Name

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    Well late last night i changed the oil at 80 miles on odometer. The sticker right next too the oil filler cap said lubricated by Castrol so i don't believe there's anything special in the factory oil additive wise. Unfortunately very busy next two days, but I'll update when i finally get to ride a few more miles
     
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  15. BigCLM

    BigCLM Senior Member

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    Do warm as the easier flow gets more junk out. The new filter will protect the engine.
     
  16. BigCLM

    BigCLM Senior Member

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    Also recommend to use a full synthetic oil that is a motorcycle specific oil. Using non-motorcycle oil can possibly cause the clutch to slip. Just follow the owners manual and you cant go wrong.
     
  17. BigCLM

    BigCLM Senior Member

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    Do not agree. New Triumph bikes come from the factory with full synthetic oil. And the owns manual says to use full synthetic or semi synthetic, not mineral based oil.
     
  18. Name

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    #18 Name, May 24, 2019
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    Yes it is motorcycle specific oil that is the brand recommended by the manual which says full synthetic or semi synthetic*10w-40. I have elected not to use the full synthetic yet as is the method described in the above mentioned article
     
  19. Name

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    It meets all the requirements and yes the manual does state semi or full synthetic. However my thought is that after the break in process i will be dropping this oil in 1000 miles and if it has all the proper additives i would think it being conventional would only be an issue if i went the 10,000 mile interval as it would not hold up for that long...
     
  20. Name

    Name Member

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    This thread has generated all the conflicting opinions i had hoped for as i genuinely wish to hear valid points of all sides. Time will tell how this break in goes. If it seizes up on me i will undoubtedly deny everything and claim service done by the book and pray for warranty replacement X)
     
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