Need Help With Potential Purchase Of T120 Black

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  1. Rickms

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    Hello All,

    I am new to this forum and extremely happy to have found it. I am looking for a new ride. I've been without a bike for about 3 years. My last and only bike was a 1993 CB750 Nighthawk. I am getting the itch to ride again but am really struggling narrowing down the right bike.

    Coming from the CB750 I am somewhat comfortable and drawn to "standards". I've been going back and forth with my wife on intended use and as much as I was leaning to a full fledged touring bike, the reality is we have little time to do extended touring so riding will be limited to weekend two-up rides as well as my daily commute.

    I've been looking at three bikes at this point, A Bonneville T120, Honda CB1100 and Z900RS, and the Yamaha XRS 700. I believe I've ruled the Z900RS out as there are just too many reports of the throttle issue. The XRS just does not look to me to be a comfortable two-up bike.

    I like the look of the T120 significantly better than the CB1100.

    So my questions around the T120 have to do with two-up riding. My wife and I are not as lightweight as we used to be. I am pushing 220lbs and my wife 170lb. What can I expect in terms of the bikes ability to handle that weight when it comes to power, suspension, maneuverability and comfort? I am interesting in other experience with two-up riding.

    The second question is really more specific to the color/finish I am looking at. I know it is not everyone's favorite but I am drawn to the T120 Black Graphite. I believe most of the surfaces are powder coated. I have no idea what is involved in keeping powered coats clean and looking good. What are pro's and con's when it comes to maintaining this type of surface.

    Lastly, I am interested in options and opinions on other bikes that I should be looking at.

    Thank you in advance for any response.

    Regards,

    Rick
     
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    Welcome Rick.

    The T120 is a fine bike two up. I would upgrade the shock absorbers first.

    Keeping it clean is like any other bike. Plenty of water, suds and a chamois. TFR (traffic film remover) sprayed on first is a good idea, followed by snowfoam. Dirt cheap when bought undiluted in bulk. Whatever, avoid getting polish on the matt finishes. A pal of mine finishes with a spray of GT85. And I don't know if they are available in the US but we use Vulcanet wipes to wipe over dusty matt and black finishes on our showroom bikes at the dealership where I work.
     
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    From what I've heard I'd be wary of the T120. I understand quite a lot of owners have not been very happy. The main issue seems to be throttle response.
    I would try and get a very long test ride if I were you.
     
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    Hi and welcome.
     
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    I returned to motorbikes after 25years out with Street Twin last year. Nice little toy, bit slow and not so clever two-up. I traded it in for T120 Matt graphite black and with 2,000miles on clock would say it is perfect for me on congested and crumbling British roads. I regularly ride two-up, don't feel need for more power, and have no issues with fueling.
    I was recommended by Triumph dealer to clean Matt paint with Harley Davidson's denim paint Cleaner, and coupled with muc off wash, it is a doddle to keep tidy.
    Can't recommend T120 black too much
     
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    Hi. I’ve got a T120 and I’m a big unit. Copes well with me and a heck of a lot of luggage when I go camping. I am though thinking about changing the shocks not because they can’t cope with the weight but rather I think a change to Hagon shocks will improve handling as I find the handling a little vague when wanting to push the bike round the bendys. Standard shocks are fine four motorways and bimbling along though.
     
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    Rick
    I found the shocks on my T120 pretty basic and changed for Hagon instant improvement and very noticeable. But I did end up selling the 120 in favour of a 900 which I find very good even the shocks.
    Ride Safe
    Joe.
     
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    I am not experiencing any throttle response issues with my 2018 T120.
     
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    Are you riding two up? Also, what type of luggage are you using?
     
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    Are you riding two up? Also, what type of luggage are you using?
     
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    It looks like gross weight is 210kg or 462lbs. Does that seem right?
     
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    Triumph say maximum load (weight of rider, passenger, luggage) for entire Bonneville range (Street Twin, T100, T120, Thruxton) is 210kg.
     
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    Must say my old Street Twin struggled with pillion, but on the T120 it seems to make little difference, so 210kg limit across the range seems odd
     
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    I currently own a 2018 T120 and am really impressed I have owned a 1975 CB750, 1981 CB750SS and a 1981 750 Nighthawk as well as several CB500 and 2 CB350 versions. I have no doubt you will enjoy this bike. You wil love the torque for sure and that will come in far more handy for 2 up riding than the CB1100. Looking at some of the other replies, the shocks are quite adequate but a little stiff and the 270 degree crank firing is by far a more logical setup for proper scavenging and rotational efficiency.
     
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    That is the number for the weight it can carry. This is from my Manual:
    "The total weight of the rider, and any
    passenger, accessories and luggage
    must not exceed the maximum load
    limit of 210 kg (463 lb)."
     
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    Thank you, that is great feedback.
     
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