Which One Bonne T100 Or Street Twin

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  1. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    So folks looking to get license in April will buy one of the above, told there the same underlying platform other than styling

    Whos owned both, and would like to share experiences, not ridden for years, grumpy old git, short arse but can reach floor on either. I’ll be a Sunday A/B road plodder no passengers with weekend trips to the coast

    Is it just a styling choice or things I should know
     
  2. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    It depends on if you also like meddling......
    Street Twin is very new on that approach but the T100 has lots of toys for it.
     
  3. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    The Efi 865 version anyway.
     
  4. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Thanks folks

    I was thinking the same about the chrome, leaning towards the T100 Black I think one dealler told me there is a Street Twing Black coming, cant recall entirely
     
  5. Sir Trev

    Sir Trev Senior Member

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    The T100 is physically a little bigger so it depends partly on which fits you better. I'm pretty stumpy at five ten ish and found the ST a little too small for me, but then I've been riding for decades. I opted for the T100 and love it.

    As the others have said either will make you smile from ear to ear.
     
  6. curly

    curly Noble Member

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    Find yourself a Bonneville Newchurch, lovely looking plodder, can deal with trips out as well!
    Curly

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  7. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Am I correct in thinking the Newchurch is an 865cc air cooled Bonne. So what's the practical differences / advantages between an air cooled and liquid cooled Bonne. Newchurch vs new T100.

    Keep it simple folks I pride myself on being stupid
     
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  8. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    The new bike is more economical, more torque, less power BHP. Has abs.
     
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  9. tcbandituk

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    Agreed
    I looked at a used Street Twin as a possibility before I bought the Newchurch.
    I've ridden a Street before and they're pretty similar really (as you'd expect).

    I went for the 865 on the basis it was a couple of grand cheaper for the 865 with less than 5000 miles on it, there's loads of bits for it new and secondhand and most glitches/problems have either been cured or well documented by now.

    The other thing I like is it's basic (none of the ABS malarky :p), easy to ride and easy to work on.....
    (Full exhaust system swap took about an hour with a 10 minute tea break included)
     
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  10. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Thanks folks
     
  11. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Test ride both as I believe others have already said.
    The old air cooled 865's are tried and tested and have loads of after market parts available for customising - a big thing with Bonnevilles.
    As biglad said, the Twin has a bit more torque and ABS fitted (as all new bikes have to now have).
    The Newchurch is a special Edition cast wheel Bonnie launched by Triumph in recognition of the old Tridays festival at Neukirchen in Austria. (and the fact that the town used the English version of the name for this period - hence Newchurch).
    It has a different paint scheme - mainly the tank - a low profile seat and black detailing including headlamp bowl, bars, mirrors, springs, wheels and mudguards. Other than that it's a standard Bonnie.
     
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  12. Essexboy

    Essexboy Active Member

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    I had a test ride on the Speed Twin and found the engine was OK but the handling seemed a bit uninspiring although this may have been down to the tyres fitted to that bike. I then tried a 2012 Bonneville and found it much more fun to ride around the country lanes but the big deciding factor was that on both bikes I felt I needed to change the bars to suit my ageing body (I wanted some that were more upright and a little wider) and I was told that on the Street Twin I could only have the standard bars or ace bars because the fly-by-wire throttle would not permit the fitting of higher wider bars so I bought the Bonnie. Now I've had it 9 months I'm really glad I bought this one as with a little tinkering with the exhaust it's way more responsive so I've started tinkering with everything else too ;)
     
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  13. BigCLM

    BigCLM Senior Member

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    I got a 2018 Street Twin. Great bike with classic look. I also got bags and touring windshield. The windshield is a must. Makes the ride effortless.
     
  14. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Very helpful folks, thank you
     
  15. Yorkie199

    Yorkie199 Well-Known Member

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    I've got the 865 t100 and the wife has the new street twin the t100 is higher at the seat and feels heavier when slow manoeuvring, the streettwin feels nimbler and sounds awesome with standard pipes it's also smoother in setting off .....overall the street twin does feel a lot smaller and lighter and more modern but I prefer the style of the t100 every time
     
  16. 45Brit2017

    45Brit2017 Well-Known Member

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    I test rode both and I thought the T100 was just a more complete, well rounded bike. In the end I bought the 2013 865cc EFI model, because it was such a bargain (what with everyone trading them in for the new, 270deg crank models) but the same comments apply.

    I’ve never understood why people are so obsessed with putting both feet flat on the floor. I’m 5’8” and rode a Commando back in the day, as long as you don’t fall over at traffic lights, what more do you want?
     
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  17. BigCLM

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    One more thing you may want to consider. One of the reasons I selected the Street Twin was the fact that it has cast wheels and tubeless tires. All of my past bikes (all Japanese) had cast wheels/tubeless tires. I carry a flat tire kit in my saddlebags consisting of various tire plugs and CO2 cartridges plus basic tools. I have had flat tires in the past and was able to do a relatively quick and simple (maybe 15 minutes) roadside flat repair. And it got me home. Then the tires were properly repaired by a bike shop. The purpose of the flat kit is to just get me home and not be stranded.

    Personally, even though I like the traditional look of the spoked wheels on the T100, I don't want to deal with a tube type tire.

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  18. 45Brit2017

    45Brit2017 Well-Known Member

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    What he said. I like the spoked wheels on my T100 but cast wheels have been around a long time, some late Meriden machines had them. They are definitely lighter than the spoked ones, too.
     
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  19. Rich Bryce

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    #19 Rich Bryce, Feb 3, 2018
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    Hi Repooh. I have a 2010 SE (essentially the Newchurch under a different name) and a Street Twin. I work at a dealership and so get to ride the T100 and T120, as well as the Scrambler.

    As a choice between the T100 and the Street twin I'd go for the Street every day. The T100 is the Street Twin engine in the heavier T120 frame, which makes the StTwin the more nimble and agile bike around town and on the tight twisties, and cheaper too. That said there's not really a lot in it and the T100 does have the higher ride height and the more classic profile.

    Try to get a test ride on both even if it means visiting more than one dealer. Don't be afraid to ask for a test ride on a pre-owned bike. You have no obligation to buy. Don't rush in to it. And if you find the StTwin a little on the low side ask them to put a bench seat on for you to try. I have one on mine. It adds a bit of height.

    The 865i efi is a cracking bike too. I love mine and am having trouble letting it go even though I really should sell it. Buy a second-hand one and you'll save loads over buying a modern bike. You'll lose abs, traction control and stuff, and the fuel economy is a good deal less, but in the great scheme of things no great shakes imo. And there are loads of aftermarket accessories. Look through auto trader, ebay and such and look for bikes already kitted out - the accessories add very little to resale value, but are often great to have. Take your time and shop around, and never be afraid to make a low cash offer - there's always another to be had.

    There are plenty of 865i owners on here who wouldn't part with theirs either.
     
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  20. BigCLM

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    Another thing that tipped the scale for me in favor of the Street Twin was the sound of the stock exhaust. Cool exhaust note right out of the box.
     
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