Compression testing

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Clarkey231, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. Jody

    Jody Active Member

    Oct 9, 2016
    143
    43
    Nuneaton
    Whoah that's low....

    Teaspoon of oil into each bore, re do the tests, if the pressure comes up then it's possibly rings

    If it stays the same then I'd say valves or head gasket

    Don't think the plug all out would make any difference
     
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  2. Clarkey231

    Clarkey231 Noble Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    473
    313
    Exeter
    Ok drop of oil in,

    1- 105
    2- 130
    3- 105

    Looks like worn rings then. It rode ok when I brought it home but as it's a project I will rebuild the engine. If readings had been good I would of just changed seals and painted but c'est la vie!
     
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  3. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
    3,051
    750
    western Australia
    Hi clarkey, jody is right on the money. Low readings there ! All plugs should be out for compression tests.. How long has engine been stationary. ie no use at all ? If its been a long time then rings maybe stuck in pistons ! Do as Jody suggests put very light oil in each cylinder but. wind/turn it over for 20 sec bursts to try springing the rings loose, do this a few time's. Even to the degree that battery requires charging ! Oh is starter motor and battery healthy ? As slow turnover can give somewhat lower readings !! Bad starter motor brushes or flatish battery can be cause.

    Hope to hear good things in the future. Good luck. If turning motor over repeatedly/faster lifts readings then all may come good with new oil and running the motor !

    Cheers capt.
     
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  4. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
    3,051
    750
    western Australia
    Hi clarkey, that doesn't sound too bad, I'd suspect sticking rings or was it turning over slowly ? 33,000 is very low milage to be giving that low a reading ! I had 94 trident that I owned for 6 yrs had 100,000 miles on it and compression was higher than the manual stated as the norm ! By about 5 psi !!
     
  5. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
    3,051
    750
    western Australia
    Clarkey,

    Compression should be 140 to 165 psi , different cam profiles for different motor performance values, the Daytona motor has the most aggressive valve timing of the T300 range Triumphs, so those readings aren't bad enough on their own to justify strip down some further investigation me thinks.. !
     
  6. Clarkey231

    Clarkey231 Noble Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    473
    313
    Exeter
    Hi Capt,

    Thanks very much for all the help and advice. It's not been used much but I gave it a decent run in bringing it home only a couple of weeks ago. No obvious noises or smoke. At the moment I could just refit carbs after they have been cleaned and rebuilt. With fresh oil/filter and repeat the test and see where we are?
     
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  7. Clarkey231

    Clarkey231 Noble Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    473
    313
    Exeter
    Battery and starter motor are fine by the way.
     
  8. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
    3,051
    750
    western Australia
    Hi clarkey,

    Would be good to run it for a while, with new oils and filter , I would suggest a good semi or fully synthetic oil as these have good cleaning agents/qualities. Do as many miles and varied types of ride as you can fit into your project schedule. If you do decide to go for a rebuild, new rings etc have a look @ porting the head, even a light clean up of the inlet and exhaust tracts can have as much as 2 or 3 HP gained ! I did my Ports on an 08 America, breathes much better!
     
  9. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
    3,051
    750
    western Australia
    Just went back and looked @ before and after oil dropped into cylinder's, without oil looked low but even across all cylinders, with oil maybe bit much oil in centre giving the much greater rise ? Did you get any idea on how the previous owner rode it ? Did he baby it ? Ride very conservatively ? Might explain low pressures, as you would expect low readings for cold engine without carburetors installed.
     
  10. Clarkey231

    Clarkey231 Noble Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    473
    313
    Exeter
    Yes I did drop a bit much in the centre cylinder, I'm happy it's higher than the other 2 though. It's not been ridden much at all by the previous owner. It's well on its way to being totally stripped now.

    Taking into account how it rode on the way down from his to mine I'm probably going to go with the engine as is without rebuild. If it does require a rebuild at some point after the project is finished that's fine as it'll be something I'm actually looking forward to doing.
     
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