Thanks, which bring me to the next part of the question: I have a project which involves a particular plating on the wheels. Problem is I have the alloy ones, which can't be plated. I know I could anodise them but that would be cheating. I need to part ex with a willing donor :biggrin: so if anyone is interested I'm open to consideration. Wheels are perfect and if you're in London I'll even do the swap of the bikes and tires for you :smile: