Spark Plugs....

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  1. 77bonnie

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    Please explain the numbering system on a spark plug (Champion N3C --- NGK BP6ES) and what effect a higher or lower number will have on a 1977 era Bonneville's valves, rings, seals (etc)?

    Will changing the plug heat range cease the pinging from low octane gas?

    Trying to remember 38 years ago, I think the bike came with Champion N3C plugs...

    All comments and suggestions would be appreciated.....
     
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    I just referenced my spark plugs with the above link, many thanks for linking.
    Changed my plugs this morning and the Haynes manual says 'NGK CR9EK' for my 2010 Speedie which I bought, the Triumph service guys had put in 'NGK CR8EK' (about 10k miles ago) which are a grade hotter then the new ones I have installed according to the NGK numbering system.

    The specifications changed after VIN 461332, and mine is pre-change
    The plugs I took out where all lighted tanned on the white electrode area.

    Is this likely to have a negative effect on my bike...should I regress back to the 9's?
    Or where Triumph wrong and installed incorrect spec plugs at the full service last year?
     
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    the NGK site appears to say the 8s are correct if i have got your bike right. go to NGK and look.
    For what it is worth and it was close to 40 years ago(JEEZ), I used two grades up on my old 78 Bonnie and she fired so sweet in the cold weather but come spring I always changed back
     
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    Thanks and good call Sprintdave, I didn't realise the linked NGK website had a part lookup function
    However, the linked site is for Australia, and they say the 9's are correct for the speed triple Se 2010, which mine is (very specific).
    I then looked at the UK site, and they have a different filter function which encompasses all Speed Triples after 1991 and they suggest the 8's!

    Maybe it is a climate thing, with ambient temperature being an large enough factor alone to require the difference.

    I am happy to run it with the 9's in, next time I remove the tank and air box I will take 5 mins to check the condition of the plugs too.
     
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    Not a lot of people know this. But until I retired 6 years ago I worked for
    NGK for over 20 years. I am happy to help anyone with spark plug issues.
    However the first rule is always go with what the manual says.
    With NGK the higher number means a colder running plug.ie if you have tuned the engine you may need to go to a higher number- colder plug for a hotter engine.
    Looking forward to boring you all with my spark plug stories a the great meet.

    La Roca :D
     
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    lol, the beano......... oh yes I remember it well
     
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