Sat Nav

Nicola Cammisa · Sep 25, 2017

BiKenG said: ↑

I agree with this 100%. I've tried most options in the car and had a TomTom Rider that lasted for one European trip and then I sent it back as 'not fit for purpose'.

Since then I've found that a good SatNav app on an iPhone (or Android alternative) is a far, far better solution and have been using CoPilot on my iPhone .....
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I agree totally. I use Sygic on my Android phone and could not be more satisfied. At the current cost of the World maps (one third of what I paid when it first came out), speed limits alert, current traveling speed and fixed speed traps alert, and with lifetime free maps updates, it is indeed a no brainer.

Dougie D · Sep 25, 2017

BiKenG said: ↑

I agree with this 100%. I've tried most options in the car and had a TomTom Rider that lasted for one European trip and then I sent it back as 'not fit for purpose'.

Since then I've found that a good SatNav app on an iPhone (or Android alternative) is a far, far better solution and have been using CoPilot on my iPhone to guide groups on a European tour every year. I would NEVER go back to using a dedicated device. For several reasons:-

Since almost everyone takes their phone anyway, why take 2 devices when one can do both jobs. Particularly when on extended trips with overnight stops as everything would need charging so 2 devices simply doubles the headache.

With your phone mounted on the bike for use as a SatNav and audio in your helmet, you can also listen to music and/or receive phone calls as you ride. I don't do that much, but it can sometimes be handy. Particularly when a group gets split up and you need to converse with other members to arrange regrouping.

Don't confuse mapping apps (as from Google and Apple) with a true SatNav app such as the aforementioned CoPilot. Google and Apple Maps download maps as required (which can cost a lot abroad), whereas a true SatNav has all the maps for the entire region that has been purchased. A proper SatNav app on a smart phone will be the same as a dedicated device, with all the maps you needs, fully loaded and NO downloading of data on the fly.

A good SatNav app for a smart phone is WAY cheaper than a dedicated device. CoPilot with ALL of Europe was recently £24 and I've never had to pay for any map updates either. Try and get a dedicated device for that.

However, nothing is perfect and CoPilot is typically flawed, but it's still the best option I've found and way superior to any TomTom device I've tried, let alone their smart phone app which I thought a joke as it was so bad.

There are other apps available, just find one you like, but I have to recommend the use of a good SatNav app on smart phone as the only option worth considering.
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i make up routes with the web site "myroute-app",then i transfer them on to my sat nav, if i was using a smart phone would i be able to download the routes as a GPX file on to the likes of copilot?

tcbandituk · Sep 25, 2017

BiKenG said: ↑

I agree with this 100%. I've tried most options in the car and had a TomTom Rider that lasted for one European trip and then I sent it back as 'not fit for purpose'.

Since then I've found that a good SatNav app on an iPhone (or Android alternative) is a far, far better solution and have been using CoPilot on my iPhone to guide groups on a European tour every year. I would NEVER go back to using a dedicated device. For several reasons:-

Since almost everyone takes their phone anyway, why take 2 devices when one can do both jobs. Particularly when on extended trips with overnight stops as everything would need charging so 2 devices simply doubles the headache.

With your phone mounted on the bike for use as a SatNav and audio in your helmet, you can also listen to music and/or receive phone calls as you ride. I don't do that much, but it can sometimes be handy. Particularly when a group gets split up and you need to converse with other members to arrange regrouping.

Don't confuse mapping apps (as from Google and Apple) with a true SatNav app such as the aforementioned CoPilot. Google and Apple Maps download maps as required (which can cost a lot abroad), whereas a true SatNav has all the maps for the entire region that has been purchased. A proper SatNav app on a smart phone will be the same as a dedicated device, with all the maps you needs, fully loaded and NO downloading of data on the fly.

A good SatNav app for a smart phone is WAY cheaper than a dedicated device. CoPilot with ALL of Europe was recently £24 and I've never had to pay for any map updates either. Try and get a dedicated device for that.

However, nothing is perfect and CoPilot is typically flawed, but it's still the best option I've found and way superior to any TomTom device I've tried, let alone their smart phone app which I thought a joke as it was so bad.

There are other apps available, just find one you like, but I have to recommend the use of a good SatNav app on smart phone as the only option worth considering.
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My GPS charges on the bike, so charging isn't an issue.
Also you can listen to music and make phone calls via the GPS.
Can't argue the cost side though - actually, technically I could, as I got my GPS free with the bike

crispey · Sep 25, 2017

The rider 450 is the latest tt with free traffic and ww maps but it's pricey at £350

Dougie D said: ↑

i make up routes with the web site "myroute-app",then i transfer them on to my sat nav, if i was using a smart phone would i be able to download the routes as a GPX file on to the likes of copilot?
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my routeapp uses sygic and another to transfer to mobiles I used it to last years gmu and it almost worked, lack of hands on use would be the blame!

Sir Trev · Sep 25, 2017

Trouble is some of us only have simple phones with rubbish screens and hopeless GPS connections. I'll stick with my TomTom - plenty of room in the topbox for two devices and a neatly powered locking dock and RAM Mount that's very easy to use.

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