Rear Axle Torque

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  1. bob1

    bob1 Noble Member
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    how do people manage to torque up up the back wheel nut the Haynes manual says 146 nm I cannot hold the bike steady enough to torque it that much it's ither me or the bike that's going to fall over :joy:
     
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  2. TRIPLE X

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    #2 TRIPLE X, Jun 14, 2025 at 7:41 PM
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    Bike on side stand with front wheel against a wall to stop it rolling forward. Get someone to stand on the back brake to stop the wheel from spinning and go for it.
     
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  3. Pegscraper

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    Tightening the rear wheel nut shouldn't turn the rear wheel. if it does there's something wrong with your bike!:joy: Maybe you're thinking of tightening the gearbox sprocket?
    Torque up the nut with the wrench in the 2 to 4 O clock position, that way your just pushing the wheel down onto the floor rather than trying to lift it off the ground.
     
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  4. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    Assume we are talking single sided swing arm here.
     
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  5. Pegscraper

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    Why?
     
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  6. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    146 Nm is the torque for 955 and 1050 single sided swing arm models such as Speed Triple, Sprint 1050 and Tiger 1050.
     
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  7. Eldon

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    That's a lot easier to achieve than my mates Ducati. I think that was over 200nm and certainly needed two us to resolve. That was a single sided swingarm so was just the one big pinned nut.

    Although I get @Pegscraper technique, remember, when the numbers get big then we can all/most lift more than we can push down ( limited by our own weight obviously).
     
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  8. Pegscraper

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    Well, every day is a school day. A figure to remember in case I ever buy one but probably not.
    So it'll be a LH thread then?
     
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  9. bob1

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    two people to do up a wheel nut that's crazy I have been trying for about twenty minutes now and I can't torque it enough the bike keeps moving forward
     
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  10. Pegscraper

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    Another potential method is to lock the rear wheel to the swing arm somehow, with a strong nylon luggage strap or similar. This will depend largely on the style of wheel and swing arm design. I've seen it done on a RC30 years ago.
     
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  11. TRIPLE X

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    Park it so that the front wheel is up against a wall then it cannot move forward.
     
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  12. TRIPLE X

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    Park it so that the front wheel is up against a wall then it cannot move forward.
    Normal RH thread as the wheel nut is on the right hand side (offside).
     
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  13. Pegscraper

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    That should make them LH thread so the normal wheel rotation tightens the thread.
    At least that's how knock on car wheel spinners work, LH thread on the RHS and RH thread on the LHS.
     
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  14. MightyBoosh

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    Normal RH thread and l used to do the front wheel up against a wall method. It also has a retaining washer and clip so completely safe if done properly. :)
     
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  15. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    The wheel does not spin on the axle. The wheel is fixed in position on the axle and the axle is a cantilever which spins on twin bearings within the hub on the left hand side.
     
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  16. Pegscraper

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    Just like knock on/off car wheel hubs and spinners.
     
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  17. bob1

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    anyway I can't torque it to 146 nm I have done it it up as tight as I can so fuck it that will have to do because I am going out for a ride tomorrow it's got the safety clip on it so should be ok
     
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  18. MightyBoosh

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    Good lad, enjoy your ride. We've all been in this position at some time, but if you've got into the "fuck off tight" range and secured the nut, cool. I've gone against factory wisdom loads when l've had to reuse caliper bolts, hub nuts etc, and managed to survive. ;)
     
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  19. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    It might be worth backing off your torque wrench to see what torque you actually achieved just for the record. Assume you got upwards of say 120 Nm so try that then increase by 5Nm until you can go no further.
     
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  20. Pegscraper

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    The safety clip should stop the nut coming undone but not having the nut fully tightened puts more strain on the drive studs or splines. "Feck off tight" for one will be "not very tight" for another but at a guess I'd say you've still got it well over 100Nm.
     
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