Help,t120 Black Edition Shakes Really Bad

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Finn JOY, Oct 16, 2025.

  1. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Hey everyone, I’m new here—glad to join the community! I picked up a T120 last year (2024) and man, it was such a joy to ride at first. But only after 600 km, it started acting up. When I twist the throttle quickly at low RPMs, the bike shakes really bad.

    I made a video to show the difference: the first half is how it should run, smooth and normal. The second half? Total night and day—even at almost the same speed and RPM, the ride gets super rough, it’s really frustrating.

    Worse yet, I took it to the dealer, they checked it out and said “nothing’s wrong with it.” I’m stuck here, so I figured I’d ask you guys: has anyone else had this issue? Or does anyone have tips on how to fix it? Would really appreciate any help!
     
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  2. joe mc donald

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    @Finn JOY Welcome to the family. Nice bike. Check your tyres if they are squaring out in the middle change them or gone hard. Check the chain is free with no jammed links. And make sure your wheels are aligned properly and no play in the swinging arm. Wish you luck. Let us all know how you get on.
     
  3. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Thx Joe
    Thanks a ton, Joe! Really appreciate you walking me through this—super helpful. I’m gonna hit up the dealer this weekend and have ’em check things out like you suggested.

    Quick add-ons to fill you in: This T120’s brand new, but I messed with the exhaust a couple times before the issue popped up. First, I just swapped the tail section for a Motone Jupiter cover. Then later, I went all in—yanked the cat, cut the whole exhaust, and threw on a shorty. But honestly? The low-end torque was garbage after that, so I switched everything back to stock. Oh, and I also chopped the rear fender to make it a bobber style too.

    Do you think any of these mods could’ve messed something up and caused the current problem?
     
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  4. Johnjo

    Johnjo Senior Member

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    Hi Finn,

    Just a thought. You may have messed up the bikes fuelling swapping exhausts. You could try the 12 minute tune. Modern triumphs are able to self learn fuelling for when swapping exhausts, etc
    Put the bike on its stand, start the engine and let it run for 12 minutes without touching the throttle. Then turn off the engine. Cycle complete , go for a test ride.

    Good luck
     
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  5. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Hey Johnjo!
    Super stoked to get your tips. I tried the method you mentioned—my dealer even helped reset the engine—but the shaking still hasn’t gotten better, unfortunately.
     
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  6. Johnjo

    Johnjo Senior Member

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    I'm sorry to hear that didn't help Finn. Good luck sorting it.
     
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  7. Kinjane

    Kinjane Well-Known Member

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    Did this coincide with a trip to the petrol/gas station?
    Could be water in the fuel.
     
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  8. Taran_las

    Taran_las New Member

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    #8 Taran_las, Oct 20, 2025
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    My T120 is as lumpy as hell under 2000 revs. Where I live in Wales we have many, many 20mph zones. Within these zones 2nd gear is too high to prevent the lumpyness. I'm mentioning this as your video doesn't show you reaching 2000rpm. Apologies if this isn't the case.

    When the problem's sorted, I hope you enjoy your T120 Black as much as I enjoy mine.
     
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  9. Pegscraper

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    I have to say my 1200 Scrambler is pretty smooth right across the rev range.

    From the video clip it sounds to me like a misfire on one cylinder.
     
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  10. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    thanks Kinjane,I first noticed this fault back in November last year. My dealer mentioned it might be water in the fuel tank, but they never fixed the issue. Since then, I've put roughly 2,000 km on the bike over the past year. Could the water in the tank still be lingering and causing this problem?
     
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  11. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Thanks a lot Taran! I totally get where you’re coming from with this bike. First and second gear do have that jerky feel, but my issue is more with the vibration. Did you happen to notice the difference between the first half and the second half of my video? Normally, the engine responds super smoothly to the throttle with steady acceleration, but now, when I twist the throttle, there’s this obvious "da-da-da-da" sound and a lag in speed. It’s been really frustrating for a whole year now.
     
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  12. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Hi,Pegscraper,Thanks for your analysis and tips! The dealer already helped me replace the spark plugs, all the exhaust gasket seals, checked the data from every sensor, and even swapped out the clutch friction plates—but the issue’s still stubbornly hanging around. How do I check for a cylinder misfire myself? Or how can I remind the dealer to look into this possibility? Would really appreciate more of your advice. Thanks again!
     
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  13. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    I just got back from the check-up. The dealer said the tires, swingarm, chain, and brake discs—everything checks out. Seems like the only one with a "problem" here is me, for being so particular...
     
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  14. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Folks, I’m back again! This weekend, I headed to the dealer once more for all sorts of checks—and surprise, surprise, the results were “all normal” yet again. But this time, I propped the motorcycle up on its stand, pressed the rear brake slightly to give the bike some resistance (to simulate the starting process), and I made a new observation!

    When I slowly released the clutch, the tire started spinning, and everything felt fine at first. But the second I let the clutch fully engage? The bike started shaking. I’ll upload a video showing this whole process—even though the issue might not look super obvious on camera, you can still catch it if you pay attention.

    Anyone here able to tell me if this is normal? At this point, I’m even wondering if I’m just being too sensitive… but one thing I’m sure of is that none of the other bikes at the dealer have this problem.
    the youtube video link https://youtube.com/shorts/K8tCYnE37KQ?si=wD7x2zoNg8ELr2B6
     
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  15. Helmut Visor

    Helmut Visor Only dead fish go with the flow
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    Possibly the rear wheel needs balancing.
     
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  16. joe mc donald

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    Yes also check the swinging bushes and the disc for warpage.
     
  17. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Guys, I think I might’ve found the issue! Yesterday, I used TuneECU to swap my China-region map with a universal one—just wanted to see the difference. But then the bike threw a P0315 code. I followed the prompts to do a crankshaft position relearn, and turns out the shaking problem got way better.

    Today I rode about 30 km, and honestly? It’s mostly back to that smooth, buttery feel I used to have. Super stoked with this result, had to share it with you guys right away.

    This afternoon I’ll flash the China-region map back and do another crankshaft position relearn. I’ll let you know how it goes then—wish me luck!
     
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  18. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Guys, I'm back. I noticed a weird thing—when I flashed back to the Chinese version of the MAP, I couldn't find the standalone Crankshaft Position Learning function in the adjustment menu. It’s been rolled into the Engine Initialization instead. But I’ve run the Engine Initialization more than once before, and it definitely never worked the same way as the standalone Crankshaft Position Learning. So I’ll take some time to flash back to the global version of the MAP later and check out other differences too.
     
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  19. Fartomany

    Fartomany Active Member

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    Sorry for your problems, but interesting at the same time ?
    I'm completely lost with the electronics .. but if ever something like this happens I now know where to look .. so thanks, Finn :cool:
    I had the battery (new ) going flat constantly on the 2016 1200, nothing seemed out of hand ... until sitting, mulling one night .. late enough to be completely quiet, a very slight noise was coming from the bike ?
    Sounded as though he injection was trying to work, now I had been turning it off just on the key .. played about and found the starter switch needs to be turned off as well ??
    Have been advised that this shouldn't be so ? .. but who cares, no more bother ? Maybe a previous owner did something .. who knows ?
     
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  20. Finn JOY

    Finn JOY New Member

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    Hey guys, I’m back again! It’s only been three or four days, and the shaking issue is back. I reflashed the global version of the MAP and tried doing the crankshaft position learning again—but frustratingly, the process got stuck at "full throttle." The engine revved up and down repeatedly, but the completion message just wouldn’t pop up. I had to stop, wait for the bike to cool down completely, and start the learning process over. Luckily, it finally showed "learning successful" this time. But sadly, the bike’s smoothness hasn’t improved at all.
    I hit up the dealer with all this mess, but they just threw their hands up and said "no fix for ya." Ugh, that’s the last straw—I’m totally ready to offload this bike! Maybe its time to upgrade to a 2026 T120 instead!
     
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