My 2024 Street Triple RS is coming up for its 1st annual service. The bike was first registered exactly a year ago and had the initial (600 mile?) service in September last year. I bought the bike 2nd hand in October. By my reckoning, the dreaded yellow spanner light will make an appearance in about 6 weeks time, I'm well below the other servicing criterion ~ 6000 miles. In the past I've done all my own servicing and I was able to reset the service light on my '17 plate STRS using dealer tool software. I'm told that won't work on the post 2023 model Street Triples and I even spoke to dealer tool about this a few months ago. At that time they didn't have a package they could offer which reset the later bikes. I think that's still the case. I spoke to my nearest Triumph main dealership this morning asking for a price to reset the light. They said they wouldn't do it unless they undertook the servicing themselves. So it looks like I'm locked in to having them do the work which pi**es me off tbh. Is anyone with a late model bike having the same issues? I'm assuming its all or most post 2023 models of Triumph that have this 'locked in' feature?
There are some good independent motorcycle workshops who should be able to turn that annoying spanner off for you. For example Paradise Garage in Downham Market used to do it for me some years ago before I got Dealertool. I do my own servicing but use Paradise Garage for tyre changes and MOT's. Highly recommended garage by the way for anyone local (they deal with both bikes and cars with a dedicated motorcycle mechanic who has an extensive knowledge of Triumphs).
I'm not sure that's the case, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Don't forget I'm talking about post '23 plate bikes, I know the earlier ones can be sorted with over the counter software. I've already had the bike to an independent dealer who told me I'm not the first one to contact him with this issue. A friend has a '24 plate Speed Triple 1200 and he wanted his bike 'remapped' to suit an aftermarket exhaust and apparently it couldn't be done. My own bike has a speed cap of 145 mph. Absolutely fine for the road of course, but if you are into serious track day riding, litre bikes will breeze past on the straights at many circuits. It must be possible however as Pete Hickman's Trooper Triumph 765 is a shed load faster than that. Presumably he has access to Triumphs inner sanctum??
Yes, you could well be right that late models are now out of reach for independents so it would need a phone call first to confirm if they are up to date with the latest technology. I now have a 25 plate Speed Twin so it looks like I might also have a problem when I come to do my first annual service.
If I recall correctly doesn't the post 23 bikes have an extra pin on the OBD jackplug? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere and it's causing a lot of headaches apparently. It all brings me back to the eternal question; Are new bikes better?
My 2024 Scrambler 1200 has also flumoxed Dealer Tool. It worked fine on my previous Street Scramblers (2020 + 2022) so I bought a new vin key for the 1200 as they were "fairly sure" it would work and reset the service reminder bit it does not. I bought the 1200 in March 24 so it has passed the annual milestone but I reset the date on the clocks so it still thinks it's 2024. I've also done my own servicing for years and intend to carry on doing so. It's a chance you take with the warranty. I'm at around 7500m so I guess the reminder will appear at 10k so I'll just ignore it if no one has come up with a fix to reset it. I think the lockdown of the ECU's is part of the the Euro 5 emissions bollocks.
The problem here is the servicing schedule will be handing them a warranty excuse on a plate, let me explain. The wife's Skoda Octavia when new was "serviced" ( oil and filter change) at a local small garage. I bought the parts from the main dealer and kept the receipt alleviating one line of excuses. The garage put it on their diagnostic tool which speaks via the internet, the servicing marker is then updated against the vin number and mileage plus obviously the date. Hopefully no cop outs are created by the above and the stupid exorbitant servicing prices are avoided.
I don't believe there's anything new here regarding warranties and dealer servicing. All the new bikes I've ever bought have stated in the maintenance schedule that servicing must be done by an "authorised" (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki etc..ect..) dealer. New bikes now come with 2yr warranties of course so I guess you're tied in for an extra year compared to the days of 1yr warranties. I had warped front discs replaced by Yamaha on my FZR1000 in 1992 at 14months old and out of warranty but that was regarded as a safety issue so they were obviously covering their own a*ses.
Just get the dealer to do a basic service and get a reset then carry out all the other works needed yourself
The OBD plug is now 6 pin for new models (was 16 pin). The likes of Dealertool do an adapter but everything cannot still be accessed for some new models. Are new bikes better? In my opinion NO! If it gets to the point where owner servicing is totally locked out then Triumph and me will be parting company and I will probably get a Royal Enfield. If I am not allowed to service my own bike then I won't be riding it. Triumph service technicians are just doing a job (some competently, some not) but for me there is also passion involved when I do my own servicing.
I totally agree with you. Re the servicing. I prefer to do it myself. I have the 6 pin OBD adaptor. I do like my '24 plate STRS, but there are certain things about it that I don't like compared to my old '17 plate bike. The TFT instrumentation is unnecessarily complex, well it certainly is for a luddite like me. The gearing is track orientated, its very close ratio and I'm thinking of adding a tooth to the gearbox sprocket to reduce the revs in top gear. But I digress, there's a lot more I do like and on the whole I'm glad I bought it. I'm wondering if I ride it round with the spanner light on (apart from annoying me) will the black box eventually put the bike into limp mode or something?
@TRIPLE X agreed. You've part answered one of my questions, which is whether or not this is now an industry wide thing or something peculiar to Triumph. All academic to me as I can't afford new or nearly new bikes, but it does smack of forcing the customer, by fair means or foul, into going to the main dealer. Borderline market manipulation, on the face of it....
I doubt it as there would have to be a warning of such in the owner's handbook for legal reasons. If the servicing lark stops at just a warning light on the dash then I can live with that, maybe but if the manufacturers start using limp modes and/or some sort of performance limiting algorithm to "persuade" owners to book a dealer service then my days of buying new bikes will end.
