Featured What you been doing with your TRIUMPH today??

Thanks for the info ... had to push the Bonnie for a couple hours last night, ( my fault for believing the ... you have 13k left, lying electronics ) ..but, making things worse was only giving the tyres the old quick thumbs test before heading out, dicovered, after sitting for about a month ... 20lb in front, and 9.5lb in rear ?
????? never struck this before, investigation will begin when back gets normal, but maybe it will get one of these products, as a just in case .... though I've never been a fan ! We'll see, after they get the soap treatment ??

Thanks again, something to mull over ?

 

Thanks for the info and your initial thoughts on your new Speed Twin, @TRIPLE X! Looking forward to some more reports as you get to know a bit better. Enjoy!

 

Voss iss das ? Had a competition with mate once to see who could handle not cleaning bike for the longest ...... I won .. 18 months, through 2 winters, etc ???? The "patina" was .... interesting, looked like the army had been using it ?

 

Picked up a Motone sump guard for the T120. About the same price as an OEM guard. Seems so simple but really well done.

 

Ummm a bit of a recovery job last night getting the 675 back home. The chain had snapped and oil was dripping out of the belly pan , further investigation tonight.



Note the damaged rollers.


The small piece of link was in the chain sludge trap at the front sprocket.

 

Good job it never jammed up! Had one snap on my KH 250 years ago and it left an oily line across the seat

 

Put another 150 miles or so on the Speed Twin as I am keen to get the first 600 mile service out of the way. After fitting a centre stand recently I was getting a bit concerned as I couldn't lift it onto the stand. I was trying to do it on my bike mat and figured that might be the problem so when I got back today I tried it on the concrete floor and it popped right up easy peasy. That made me very happy!

 

Only ever had one chain snap. That was on my T160 Trident in the 70's. Turned out the dealer was selling industrial chain that was clearly not suitable for motorcycles. Non o-ring chain in those days.

 

My Triumph went on track for the first time at Blyton Park yesterday for a day with Rapid Training. Helmut took his Tuono.

On Monday we rode about 200 miles to our accommodation in Scotter, Tuesday we did Master Your Machine Part 1 at Blyton Park and then today we rode home. We took a scenic route there and back via the Staffordshire Moorlands and Peak District to avoid the boredom of motorway miles, which in itself had some fantastic roads.

The day with Rapid was amazing, it consisted of three riders to an instructor (ours had a background in racing) and we had seven sessions, building skills each time until the last two sessions were used to consolidate everything. I was a bit nervous beforehand as I was afraid that I might be slow or disastrous, however that was not the case at all and any nerves disappeared as soon as I got out on track and were replaced by a huge grin that lasted all day .

It was absolutely amazing, such a buzz it was unreal. Very definitely one of the best things I have done biking - wise and I cannot wait for part two in July!!

There was a track photographer there as well, so I am hoping and praying for at least one decent photograph when they’re ready. For now, here are a few shots Helmut took (none of us on track, as we were in the same group, so out at the same time).

 

An update on the above;

The engine is a total loss due to the chain splitting the output shaft bearing which will no doubt in turn have damaged the crankcases. Some serious forces involved here with the doubled up chain locking up against the swinging arm whilst accelerating overtaking a car.
A very lucky outcome with no loss of control or injuries involved.

Sadly, this means the bike comes to an end at this point so if anyone wants parts, then pm me a phone number and I'll pass them onto my son?

2009 675R Street Triple

 

Any idea why the chain snapped? Is it possible the bearing failed first? Pleased nobody got hurt.

 

So sorry to hear about this. That must be so frustrating, unsettling and relief all at the same time, presumably a lovely ride ruined, but thank goodness you’re safe. Does insurance cover this sort of thing?

 

Short ride to Frodsham for a meeting this afternoon. Glorious weather and a nice mixture of A B & unclassified roads made it perfect for making sure I’d put the wheel back straight, got the chain tension right, and the tyre was holding pressure. All good, so all set for DGR on Sunday morning. Photo to prove it really happened.



Hardly any oil fling on the back of the number plate and rear wheel, so I must be getting better at putting just the right amount of chain lube in the right place.

 

I eliminated some of the ring connectors on my Battery terminals. I spliced together two negative leads, soldered them, then crimped on a single ring connector. Repeated for the positive side. Then fitted four web straps, two each side of the seat. I'll use them to secure my duffle bag. They tuck under the seat when not in use. Lastly I fitted a Slipstream screen. I took the Dart screen off. I have a two province road trip coming up with some 500k days and thought I might like something larger. The Slipstream comes off in seconds. Picked it up used, so not much invested ecxept time.

 

Not entirely certain on anything, other than I fitted the new chain and sprockets around 8k miles ago and the bike has now done around 40k.
Yes, your suggestion is certainly one possibility and the bike has had a hard life including being written off twice, but was maintained to a good standard. The chain didn't let go at the soft link and that was still intact.

My theory is that the chain was over tight and he said he had adjusted it that day, but insists it wasn't.

The current owner is an enthusiastic young man if you know what I'm saying?
There was a bump on the road surface, he'd just changed down for a bit of zap and there were a bunch of bikes in front that obviously needed catching

A very unfortunate, but lucky outcome.

 

No, the insurance won't cover matters like this so breaking it makes the most sense to create funds for the next chapter and move things on.

The bike has been known for around 13 years now, unlucky for some maybe, coincidence, superstition!

This is at the 2017 Manxgp

 

I had a chain snap on my KTM 1190 a few years ago. It was fitted by a local workshop and I noticed the rivets on the joining link had not been properly flared and the plate was ready to pop off. I took it back to him and he hammered the joining link rivets some more but he must have created a tight spot which caused the chain to snap at the joining link the next day. As I had supplied the chain and sprocket kit he wriggled saying the parts I'd supplied must have been defective.

I was just leaving a 30 mph zone at the time so wasn't going fast and it let go as I accelerated.
The flailing chain buckled the chain catcher plate in front of the gearbox sprocket and smashed a hole in the undertray below the pillion seat (if I'd been carrying a pillion the chain would have whiplashed the back of their leg).
When I got home I realised I had no clutch. The clutch slave is very close to the front sprocket and bolts through the chain catcher plate onto two threaded pillars cast into the crank case. When the catcher plate took the force of the lashing chain one of those pillars sheared off, leaving the clutch slave hanging and that was why I had no clutch.
I thought at first the engine was a write-off. There was no way to weld or bond the broken pillar back on and new crank cases at the time were £2000, minus all the bearings and bushes and the cost of assembly.

Luckily there was a convenient engine casing bolt only an inch away from the broken pillar so I fabricated a flying bracket out of steel plate with a threaded nut welded to it and a cranked bend in it so that when mounted off that engine casing bolt the threaded nut located in exactly the position where the threaded pillar had been. It was tricky and the fabrication took several attempts to get it into exactly the right position, but I managed it in the end. It's invisible and has worked perfectly for the last 20,000 miles. But it was so nearly the end of the bike so I feel your pain.

Now, I fit all chains myself. I only use DID ZVM-X chains and a DID riveting tool which is slightly fiddly but fool-proof, producing a perfect flare and it cannot over-compress the joining link and create a tight spot.

It is very important when fitting a chain to makes sure it articulates perfectly with no tight spots. I recommend the DID riveting tool.

 

A friend recalled seeing a guy on track at Almeria/Andalucia (not sure, not important) pull out of pit lane on a Panigale. His chain snapped and it whipped around. On closer inspection back in the pits it had marked his leg through his leathers leaving a nasty whip slash mark.

 

And that's at slow speed, like mine. If a chain snaps at high speed the resuts could horrific. I imagine I was uninjured because it's an adventure bike with an upright riding position and mid controls. A sports bike with rearsets would leave the rider's leg more exposed.
The chain catch plate on my KTM is very substantial, at around 4 mm thick. It was severely buckled and it's high tensile so was impossible to hammer flat again. I had to buy a new one. It must have absorbed a hell of a lot of force so it did its job.

 

OMG, @Eldon. I'm so glad that you didn't get hurt. But what a sad ending for your bike.