Well, yeah, you said it for me! I agree with you! I steadfastly ASSUME and JUDGE the following to be true, however stereotypical, however paranoia laden, however imaginary: People carry guns around on a daily basis because they IMAGINE a scenario where they are involved in a shoot-out and assume they will emerge victorious, escaping injury themselves, hurting no bystanders, carrying out justice, being the good guy. In some conceivable scenario, their weapon might very well be fired, and they might inflict death. Is that NOT the reason a person carries a gun around? How is that some sort of wild and crazy false accusation? As I have written in this post several times: If you want a gun and want to carry it around my neighborhood and have the permits required, go ahead. Furthermore I am well aware that you do not need my stinkin' permission. I tell ya, I DO think it is 'nutty', it is ridiculous, unnecessary to the point of being comical, and not at all worth the effort and expense. That is why I chuckle to spot open carry or learn of ccw at the Wal-mart. I can't hep but wonder "what in the world do these people think they are up against? What is going through their heads?, Why do they feel so compelled?". As an aside...why CONCEAL carry? That can only be to take advantage of the elemment of surprise in an imaginary shoot-out as described above? It offers advantage compared to a weapon in plain sight. One of my refrains echoes yours Mr. G: Training training training. I JUDGE, I ASSUME I STEREOTYPE that the majority of gun toters are not sufficiently trained. Neither you Mr. G. nor anyone can convince me they are. I put forth the proposition that because of that, they might very likely make a situation worse, rather than better. That is why I do not like it. Oh wait...I could be mistaken! Is there a course for non-police that Mr. or Ms Guntote typically takes? A course that might include, for example...(let us imagine) a shooter with an automatic weapon has invaded the shopping center, on the other side of the fountain... Ms. Guntote realizes she has 10 rounds, she is pretty good aim at 50 feet. Training dictates that her next move should be.....? Is THAT what I am missing in my judgements and assumptions? Am I missing the idea that gun-toters are in fact safe well trained accurate shooting steely-nerved people that we should all welcome as peace keepers? It is one thing for a person to tell me that they want a gun around the house - I get that, I have no issue with that, and, too bad for me even if I did. But... training training training... guns waved in an emergency are often off target, and if your attacker has a gun, or takes yours, it could be curtains. That is why I don't want one. Too dangerous in my untrained hands. Go buy a hundred of em if you want, I don't care. Mr. Golgotha, you ARE stereotypical, you ARE worried for your safety so you carry a gun, you DO believe you NEED to tote a gun around, and you DO imagine DEADLY shoot out scenarios, you DO think being unarmed is like rolling the dice. You ARE a gun-enthusiast, the kind others - such as yourself - might casually refer to as a GUN-NUT. I do not begrudge or feel superior. I am simply painting the picture of you I have in my mind. What is NOT true in the preceding paragraph? Me: I am stereotypical too: I'm not worried for my safety, I don't worry about someone hiding in the bushes, I do not imagine scenarios where I am attacked, defenseless, by overwhelming force. I do not consider being unarmed 'rolling the dice' - actually, more the opposite. Like it or not, we are all stereotypical judging accusing people. That does not NECESSARILY mean we are wrong. It can be very meritorious to be so. We all need, sometimes, to acurately size eachother up, in order that we can all get along in this great country. I think you or I should be able to do whatever we like so long as it does not encroach on the other. It is warm enough today to take a ride even though gusts are hitting 25kph. Maybe I'll start 'er up, ride enough to charge the battery. Happy new year Golgotha (the skull) I do respect you. Really. And I appreciate the effort it takes for you to express your point of view. And happy new year to any one who sufferd through my rants - that IS the name of this forum, right? "Rant of the Day"? That is what I'm supposed to be doing here isn't it? hahaha
I have read with interest the two sides of the gun debate @Donnie-boy and @Golgotha . I have no idea what it would be like to live in a society as yours. Your opposing views have provided me with a terrific insight. My conclusion is that I would not want to live under the gun laws that you have. Stay safe and be happy
That works out all pretty well then because your wish was granted many decades ago. My wish gets reconfirmed just about every time it goes to federal court. @Donnie-boy - You know almost nothing about me, dude… other than I disagree with you on almost everything you contend here. That, and I live up in Raleigh. You don't know when I carry, you don't when I don't carry. You've spent the last 24+ hours conveying your opinions, that's it. You're entitled to them, no skin off my back. And no, everyone doesn't stereotype, and everyone does NOT judge. You do however… a lot, and you reconfirm that every time you post, that and your vivid imagination on potential shooting scenarios… and gun owner motives. I have noticed that this… judging, stereotyping, etc, is a very common trait of the left-leaning set though, to which by your own admission you are a member(BTW- I'm 3rd party). That, and generalizing, which is now another thing you've now shown to be prone to as well. These are ironically what you guys are VERY inclined to accuse your opposition of too. So to all that I would then also disagree to your claim of "I don't begrudge or feel superior." You've been kind of putting yourself on a bit of a pedestal and talking down to that which you don't agree with and to that which I think you don't understand but have very clearly arranged in your mind. Rock on dude, you be you.
"Twitter is an enemy to America and can't handle the truth…” but she had an account and contributed… wouldn’t that just make her an accessory to the evil??? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tw...esentative-marjorie-taylor-greene-2022-01-02/
What's a Twitter? I suggest actually reading the thread then, I'll warn you though- I'm not the verbose one.
Good Health and Safety standards are obviously a good thing. (When I was a student, c,1970, I had a holiday job with a local building firm, which once involved spending several days digging up a reinforced concrete cellar floor in Slough with a pneumatic drill. Ear defenders? Dust protection? What were they?) But there's an awful lot of managers nowadays covering their arses by requiring hard hats to be worn in situations where they are either completely unnecessary (eg surveying perfectly sound buildings) or completely useless (eg falling out of a 90ft hoist). It's all about ticking the boxes.
That was funny on SO many levels (I did have to temporarily un-ignore somebody to appreciate the relevance)
I think the safer you make things, the stupider people become around them. The more safety stickers you put on things, the more people ignore them. A lot of it has already gone too far IMO.
I remember many years ago brother-in-law telling me he had to wear a hard hat in ALL areas of his site (site manager for a large residential house builder). Even when entering a completed and occupied property where the owner required some remedial work, absolutely ridiculous. On the other hand I as a young engineering apprentice even longer ago, likewise had no ear defenders in a VERY noisy machine shop, also I was tasked with machining a certain grade of Tufnol and told to "avoid the dust", no mask. Later found out it was asbestos based, the experienced toolmakers looking after themselves - sod the apprentice.
HSE as well as OSHA can get pretty stupid. I was on a site once in a very high threat locale. We were taking effective indirect every day and hostile personnel were venturing in pretty close on occasion. My crew wore modular plate carriers at all times and ballistic helmets whenever they traversed the sight. The site safety guy, some old bumpkin from W.Virginia, insisted that we started wearing blue construction hardhats, blue being the color to ID us from a distance. Mind you our issue helmets were Level 3+ ballistic rated protection. They could pretty easily take an AK round from 100 yds, to say nothing of protecting the wearer from bumping his head or having a wrench dropped on him from 2 or 3 stories up. I even offered to paint our helmets blue to adhere to the site color code SOP. He wasn't having it. It was flimsy blue plastic or nothing. I finally got him to back off when I emailed him stating I needed his demand as a formal written order including all the factors supporting his decision. I also required he must include that he would therefore be taking all responsibility should one of my guys get hit in the head. That shut him up. Safety personnel are commonly just petty little dictators trying ad nauseam to justify their existence at any cost, to include dismissing common sense.
45yrs ago now, don't try to have a conversation with me in a pub with much background noise but otherwise I think I got away with it. Edit: the wife seems to think my hearing loss is more selective
SOOOO funny! Thanks for sharing, @Col_C. I laughed so hard milk (well, not milk, something a little stronger) came out my nose. I've gotta watch more of this guys stuff. Glad you temporarily un-ignored somebody...well worth it in my opinion.
You have to thank @DanielB for posting the Jim Jefferies videos (as I was doing), an excellent riposte to the "discussion". I treat the forum like a trip to the pub, sometimes you come across a character that you find so annoying it's just best to move tables, the "ignore" button is my virtual move tables.
I'm not sure there's much @Havit can do other than keep removing the accounts to save every one of us having to ignore them each time. If there's a way to block them from being able to post that's going to be down to @Rob but he hasn't logged on for nearly a month.
