hi everyone new to the forum. Last weekend I purchased a 2017 765rs after selling my 2014 1200explorer xc. As far as I'm aware its totally standard apart from the hp corse slip on. From the 1st ride I noticed its almost like urs bogging down when you try and pull of causing me to put more revs on just to get going ...(almost like trying to pull off in 2nd) . Once its moving it seems fine . Ive tried letting it idle for 15min didnt seem to make any difference. So today I put the standard can back on and its slightly better but still doesn't pull of how id expected it to (well compared to how smooth my xc did). Any ideas or possible solutions to fix this would be much appreciated as apart from that it seems a cracking bike .
Your old 1200 XC had an engine tuned for loads of low down grunt, it could probably pull away with only a whiff of throttle. I had a 2012 Speed Triple and 1st was only ever needed from a standing start...... You 765 RS has an engine that comes to life from the midrange upwards, they're chalk and cheese. I now ride a 2020 765 RS and it won't pull away with only a whiff of throttle, it's not got the guts to do it. My first suggestion would be to give it a big more throttle and slip the clutch a little until it's moving nicely and the engine and road speed have blended together. Give it a chance to breathe and hopefully it'll reward you. If that's not it then take a ride back to the dealer and have a chat.....
I was wondering if it was feeling different because I was coming from the 1200 but if its normal that it needs a bit a slip and more revs I will have to get used to it...i wasn't sure if it was the exhaust causing loss of back pressure or some other issue. Once its rolling its fine
I often think the RS sells better because of its bells and whistles but the R is actually a much better road bike precisely because it is not so peaky.
As everyone else has intimated it's likely that you're noticing the huge difference in the power delivery charactersitics of the two bikes. But, I'd suggest, it may well be worth asking the supplying dealer to check the ECU tune/map and see if it's been properly set up for the HP Corse - if that's your chosen exhaust.
Thanks for the replies...looks as though its just me noticing the difference between the two. If I put my hp corse back on is it worth having a remap done to get the bike running at its peak ? If so does anyone recommend a place in in Nottingham and I've seen mixed reviews about hilltop
I agreed! Think it's just a characteristic of the bike but it may have something to do with the can, mine has got a Yoshi can on it, I'll ask the mechanic about it when I get it serviced later
Do you not get any issues with fueling or anything with the yoshi...i like the sound of the hp corse (although neighbours probably don't at hlf 7 in a morning) but I don't no if a map will help any plus If I had one I'd want a tuner thats trustworthy
Is that for the 2020 versions or the pre 2020 versions? I'm guessing pre 2020 as it refers to one previous model rather than 3...
Emailed BSD performance in Peterborough this morning ing regarding the mapping on the 765rs and this was there responce These bikes run incredibly lean. This is made worse with an open can, an worse yet with decat headers. You can stop all the bogging down around the bottom end and mid range by fuelling the bike correctly and getting rid of the emission devices fitted to the bike when new. Your two options are a fuelling module(power commander, rapid bike). Or an ECU remap. At the moment we are still working on flashing these ECU’s but it won’t be much longer. With a fuelling module you are looking at around £600 to supply one, fit it and set it up on the dyno. The remap would usually cost approximately £450 There should be some examples of these bikes on our website when they have been set up for exhaust cans etc.
That's interesting to know, I did ask about it when I had it serviced but he reckons Triumph don't do any remaps for this engine even with a full yoshi system on
The BSD remap would be a proper custom remap for the individual bike, whereas a Triumph one would be a fairly safe generic best guess map for the std bike if they did one, hence the £450 cost to map it. p.s. with regard to the bogging, I suspect it might be down to the Triumph clutch mechanism rather than the fuelling, my RS and my Tiger both have a similar action/issue when pulling away which means having to rev them slightly.....
I've emailed again regarding what they recommend as mentioned they've not fully developed the full flash for the ecu yet . ...regarding bogging im getting used to it abit more now but its been a big change from the explorer xc to the rs . If the ra doing run very lean though it could be a mix of both the fueling and clutch . If it is chucking to much fuel it down low in revs then that may be why its a struggle to use little revs to set of in 1st
