Or if you are going to panic, panic first. This Coronavirus virus looks like being a global pandemic, 50+ dead, 1000+ infected, and that's the official government figures. Nobody believes these figure. You don't lock down 50+ million people, close industry, cancel Chinese New Year events etc just for a Flu virus. Anyone with the virus is infectious for days before they show symptoms and it is highly contagious, no way can this now be contained. Humans have very little immunity to Coronaviruses, it's likely we will now all get it, mortality rate seems to be ~3% if you believe the Chinese figures, over 200,000,000 could be killed globally. But Greta will be happy. BBC have been following the official Chinese line all weekend, will be interesting to see if the UK media change tune when they get back to work tomorrow. Italian TV reports 100,000s infected, 1000s dead, can anyone here speak Italian and confirm this story? or vouch for the credibility of the source? https://twitter.com/ifoundmetonight/status/1221378991270944769
Yep with global travel there is every likelihood it will reach our shores. Let's hope the goverment and NHS have a plan....
I don’t pretend to know but....... My late father was a Min of Ag vet surgeon and epidemiologist. He would have told you the Mad Cow thing might just be a product of people in research laboratories chasing grants and the Media. ALL mammals suffer from ‘spongiform encephalopathies’ - the most susceptible - that daily licks hundreds of thousands of human faces - is the domestic cat. He worked the Cumbrian Fells in War time (dig for victory!) where sheep with scrapie lambed on cattle grazed pastures and no transmission ever happened between species nosing one another’s birth sacs. Sheep with scrapie get cerebral irritation and rub their horns to a polish. Shepherds would spot the signs...... and promptly send them to slaughter before they were staggering where they entered the human food chain..... (we never worried!) All the stuff about prions has been demonstrated in labs, not fields. His final thought was about incidence I.e. how BSE cropped up. It does not look like a communicable disease like flu so much as an environmental or genetic problem. It occurs in clusters. Did you know BSE is/was overwhelmingly a disease of the dairy herd not beef cattle? Much more common in the Friesian (& cross breeds) than Herefords or Angus......and virtually all Friesian cattle have ancestry in a handful of bulls imported in the 1950s. Notice the Creuzfeld Jakob epidemic never happened? Just the normal tragic incidence. So Dad didn’t ‘know’ either but the story peddled doesn’t totally add up either. Just like the rubbish coming out of China.......
That's the way it will ne handled here in the USA. The Big wheels will spare no expense, with taxpayer's dollars, to look after No. 1, while leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves! Ah, my government at work.
A vaccine won't be long. https://www.theguardian.com/science...outbreak-help-in-race-for-coronavirus-vaccine
1000 rounds of .22LR 500 rounds of .308 500 rounds of .303 Plenty of components to make more as required. .44 revolver Bullet casting moulds. A few swords of various types. Hunting knife. I'm good for when the zombie apocalypse happens.
Still too long for us plebs, you know the 1%ers will get the vaccine first, we'll be lucky to be offered a vaccine in 6 months. This graph is based on official Chinese stats for Deaths, the Y scale is logarithmic ... It's not just the coronavirus that will kill people when the NHS is overwhelmed, anyone needing ANY medical treatment will be in trouble.
I don’t think the majority of us will need it. Just the old and young mostly. Reasonably healthy people are surviving it.
yes, as per my OP, the mortality rate appears to be 3% however 25% are having severe infections needing medical help or intensive care. If it becomes as widespread as swine flu, where it's claimed that we have all had it by now, but most had very mild or no symptoms, but with a 3% death rate, 25% needing medical care. This is spreading far faster than SARs, Ebola, HIV, MERs, so a more severe case of swine flu is probably a more appropriate comparison. China coronavirus: Hong Kong medical experts call for ‘draconian’ measures in the city as research estimates there are already 44,000 cases in Wuhan. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...na-coronavirus-hong-kong-medical-experts-call
Is this really as dangerous as is being made out or is it a load of old bollocks just like the millennium bug?
The Millennium bug was real, the reason it was a non event was because for years before code was re-written and systems were upgraded. The fact it was such a non event is credit to the industry for fixing it even if the motivation was profit. We've had years of warnings that a virus like this would come our way, lets hope our governments are as well prepared, not much profit in it for the private sector.
I worked for a large UK Bank and was heavily involved in the year 2K testing programme. All of the Banks systems were tested by the end of 1998 and1999 was used as preparation for the change over on the 31st December. As @b_badger says the IT industry made sure it would be a non event.
sorry to put a spoiler on Brexit day celebrations, but this shit might get serious. also US labs confirming HIV insertions. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1 edit: tweet has link to same source, Cold Spring Harbor is in New York, but not sure if they just published the paper or wrote it. Edit: very odd, link now goes direct to the original Indian science paper, and not CSH, very peculiar. Think we can relax and enjoy the party
Tomorrow is another day to worry about that shit, today is about tomorrow and the next phase for this great country of ours.....
